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Posted: 05 March 2010 at 5:13pm | IP Logged Quote CyberCrone

I have a dim recollection that Hemingway claimed in one of his books that he was in love with a cat.  I associate the memory with one of his books set in Cuba.  Does anyone remember this?  Am I deluded?  I know he certainly mentioned cats; but my memory is that he once specifically said he was in love with one. If you can quote the passage that would be great; next best would be if you can just tell me which book it was in.
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Posted: 07 March 2010 at 11:38am | IP Logged Quote rob39m

Boise the cat appears in Part 2  of Islands in the Stream,  the section entitled "Cuba".  Thomas Hudson tells Boise that it's a shame Boise doesn't drink.

Ultimately Hudson realizes that despite the love, a physically intimate relationship would be impossible.

 

 

 

 

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Posted: 07 March 2010 at 12:21pm | IP Logged Quote CyberCrone

rob39m wrote:

Boise the cat appears in Part 2  of Islands in the Stream,  the section entitled "Cuba".  Thomas Hudson tells Boise that it's a shame Boise doesn't drink.

Ultimately Hudson realizes that despite the love, a physically intimate relationship would be impossible.

 

Ah! So it was a character that was in love with a cat, not Hemingway himself - altho of course he's a pretty autobiographical writer.  Thanks for this; I'll look for it.  It's relevant to a writing project of mine about cats.


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Posted: 08 March 2010 at 11:34am | IP Logged Quote Peter Krynicki

Speaking of cat, aminals, bears and Hemingway...

"He felt that circus animals were not like other animals, that they were
more intelligent and, because of their constant working alliance with man,
had much more highly developed personalities." (29)

He goes on to describe an encounter with a gorilla, and then this:

(start of passage on page 30)
Ernest stopped in front of the polar-bear cage and closely watched its
occupant swing back and forth across the small area. 'He's very nasty, Mr.
Hemingway,' the bear keeper said. 'I think you're better off talking to this
brown bear, who has a good sense of humor.'

'I should get through to him,' Ernest said, staying with the polar bear,
'but I haven't talked bear talk for some time and I may be rusty.' The
keeper smiled. Ernest edged in close to the bars. He began to speak to the
bear in a soft, musical voice totally unlike his gorilla language, and the
bear stopped pacing. Ernest kept on talking, and the words, or I should say
sounds, were unlike any I have ever heard. The bear backed up a little and
grunted, and then it sat on its haunches and, looking straight at Ernest, it
began to make a series of noises through its nose, which made it sounds like
an elderly gentleman with sever catarrh.

'I'll be goddamned!' the keeper said.

Ernest smiled at the bear and walked away, and the bear stared after him,
bewildered. 'It's Indian talk,' Ernest said. 'I'm part Indian. Bears like
me. Always have.'

Who'd a thunk it?

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Posted: 25 March 2010 at 4:32pm | IP Logged Quote Mike Galvin

Not only did Boise make an appearance in Islands In The Stream, Boise was Hemingway's favorite cat in reality.

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Posted: 26 March 2010 at 12:57pm | IP Logged Quote Peter Krynicki

Hopefully this link will work...

http://books.google.com/books?id=yKFCgD0XN9EC&pg=PA53&am p;lpg=PA53&dq=boise+hemingway's+cat&source=bl&ot s=qjt7P_TKTG&sig=UnB3ptwpuiVUsQlaCJqSWiewmKM&hl=en&a mp;ei=AeesS-ecBoK78gaa5f3cCw&sa=X&oi=book_result& ;ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q= boise%20hemingway's%20cat&f=false

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Posted: 26 March 2010 at 2:21pm | IP Logged Quote CyberCrone


Thanks, Peter and Mike.  The link to the book was especially fun.

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  Hemingway did actually say that to a Psychiatrist just to annoy him.  Southern Illinois University has an extensive library section on psychoanalysis and while looking through it I came across a book titled - and this is ust a guess it was so long ago - The Psychoanalysis of Ernest Hemingway.  It wasn't much of a book but that part stuck out.  I have never seen another copy of that book anywhere. 

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Posted: 10 April 2010 at 12:57pm | IP Logged Quote CyberCrone

Interesting, Papa Cosa...
There is a big question about this, though - it is a gross violation of professional ethics for a psychiatrist to reveal details about a psychoanalysis but I don't know if that applies after the patient is dead.  Could it be the book was written by Hem himself?  If so, it ought to be wellknown.  Then who?  It would be fun to research this.  I'll do so and be back.

I'm back.  I found this with no trouble: "In Hemingway's Fetishism, Carl Eby demonstrates in painstaking detail and with stunning new archival evidence how fetishism was crucial to the construction and negotiation of identity and gender in both Hemingway's life and his fiction. Critics have long acknowledged Hemingway's lifelong erotic obsession with hair, but this book is the first to explain in a theoretically coherent manner why Hemingway was a fetishist and why we should care. Without reducing Hemingway's art to his psychosexuality, Eby demonstrates that when the fetish appears in Hemingway's fiction, it always does so with a retinue of attendant fantasies, themes, and symbols that are among the most prominent and important in Hemingway's work."

The same author has written other works based on Freudian interpretations of clues found in Hem's work.  We all know Freudian interpretations are worth almost zero these days, but anyway I'm wondering if the book you saw was one by this Carl Eby.

Later: BINGO! Go here (Google Books):

http://books.google.com/books?id=yGT4u3lBCn4C&pg=PA136&a mp;lpg=PA136&dq=carl+eby+hemingway+cat&source=bl& ;ots=ehUjBusORE&sig=Q-Vyfc5tBhkvPlSPQQLK4B_LZZI&hl=e n&ei=BrHAS9aFCdP_nAeIl_z9Cg&sa=X&oi=book_result& amp;ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage& ;q=cats&f=false

and do a search for "cats". 





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Posted: 10 April 2010 at 4:21pm | IP Logged Quote Papa Cosa

I'm sorry as always I leave something out that I should havesaid before.  The book was written based on Papa' work, interviews with him and the people he knew.  The cat thing was said at a party where a shrink thought he could see what made Hemingway tick.  That's interesting though about the fetishism...

I contacted an old friend who still lives in Carbondale and frequents the library at SIU.  He will see what he can find.

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