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Posted: 30 August 2005 at 2:10pm | IP Logged Quote Pablo

       I have watched this flick many times starting at an early age of 16. It inspired me to read novels by our favorite author.  I recently watched it again this week and came to the realization that by modern terms this movie is a chick flick for guys. Any opinions? 

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Posted: 30 August 2005 at 2:27pm | IP Logged Quote Mike Galvin

It is a great film. One of my favorites and what I believe is one of George C Scott's best roles (besides Patton). Never thought of it as a chick flick for guys. What other films could be considered chick flicks for guys? Saving Private Ryan, Cold Mountain?

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I haven't seen the movie but I liked the book.

What do you mean chick flick for guys? I don't know what that means.  Do you mean it's a guy movie?

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     To be more succinct it is a very moving film about subjects that would appeal to men as opposed to women. Fatherhood , fishing , missing ones sons, long lost loves. "  



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Posted: 30 August 2005 at 4:34pm | IP Logged Quote Mike Galvin

With tragic endings?

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           As with most stories from our favorite author in common.



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If it's anything like the book, I'd like it. Does it have the fighting scenes at
the end when they're on the river?
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       yes the scenes are very well done. Boats playing cat and mouse in the mangroves. 



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I have the DVD and the book and I am into the second reading of the book.  It seems to me that there is far more substance to the book and there may be a great deal of information in the book, which for me, will turn out to be of great historical significance.

Hemingway, for some reason, was willing to pass on publication of this book.  I think this could be tremendously significant.  The thought has ocurred to me that he chose not to publish because the subject dealt with stories that he agreed ought never be told.  In my research I find several examples of Ian Fleming connections that fit this mould.  Moreover, repeatedly there is a Canadian connection.  The death of young Tom in the RCAF might be missed as a significant point in the story.  Eddie, portrayed as an Australian, seems to be not surprising, Canadians and Aussies were commonly comrades in arms in WWII.

However, most significantly, one muses over the baby sitter role played by Eddie and the incredible fight with the marlin. 

I know Hemingway was disgusted with Operation Jubilee, the perhaps deliberate sacrifice of Canadian lives at Dieppe.  Ian Fleming had a hand in that disaster and so did Mountbatton and Churchill.  There we hear Churchill uttering the words, "a story that ought never or can never be told". 

When Fleming and Stephenson used to get drunk together in Bermuda, what confessions might have been revealed?  Hemingway, just maybe, was paying tribute with Eddie's story, to Canadians and Australians that were fodder for Brit ambitions.

 

 

 



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