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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 12:12am | IP Logged Quote Tripelt

I am interested on everyones views comparing and contrasting Hemingway and Faulkner. Mainly concerning their impacts and roles in the lost generation, their views on Paris, their personal rivalry, their views towards their families.

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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 2:34pm | IP Logged Quote RobbieJor

Sounds like you're doing a term paper.  Better get reading.  And researching.  You've got a lot of material to cover.

Let's start with this: Faulkner was not a member of the lost generation.



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Posted: 15 November 2005 at 9:18pm | IP Logged Quote Tripelt

Well thanks for the help, I realize Faulkner wasn't so he obviously had no role, but it is rather relevant to compare the two.
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Posted: 16 November 2005 at 1:34pm | IP Logged Quote RobbieJor

I got into Faulkner from reading Hemingway.  The assignment you propose I would guess would best approached for the Faulkner side.  I believe that Hemingway will stand the test of time better than Faulkner.  Especially in today’s world where we live our lives at Internet speed.  Who wants or has the time to read a book where a sentence is a paragraph long and a paragraph is a page long?

 

Here are some comparisons:

Neither had formal education beyond high school.

Both lived in Paris at the same time.

Both served in foreign armies during WW I.

Both had problems with alcohol, though Faulkner more so.

Both had life-long problems with the IRS.

Both had farms: Faulkner had Bailey’s Woods; Hemingway had Finca Vigia.

Both were awarded the Nobel prize in literature.

Hemingway wrote in short sentences; Faulkner wrote in long sentences.

Hemingway wrote the novel To Have and Have Not; Faulkner wrote the screen play for the movie To Have and Have Not.

Each had a young female that he mentored.

Each criticized the other’s writing style.

Hemingway wrote about the “Code Hero;” Faulkner wrote about “Southern Culture.”

Both were hypochondriacs.

 

Any one of the topics above, and I’m sure there are many more, should be enough to get you going and would make for an interesting essay.  Let me know if you write any or find any; I’d like to read them.



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Posted: 16 November 2005 at 6:30pm | IP Logged Quote tripelt

Didn't know that both were hypochondriacs, although I have read that after every time Hemingway put a large physical strain on his body(like whenever he went on a hunting or fishing trip) he would get sick. 
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Posted: 16 November 2005 at 10:39pm | IP Logged Quote woyzeck9

I work in the tax industry and find it interesting that both had IRS problems. Where in the world did you find that information?

I like them both. I prefer EH. Faulkner wrote some amazing short stories, like EH did. Faulkner is often considered "difficult" reading and EH often considered "easy." Reading a Faulkner novel is like a chore, and reading a EH novel is a pleasure. EH's style became dominant in later writers and literature.

That actually sounds like a hard essay topic. But good luck.
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Posted: 17 November 2005 at 10:42pm | IP Logged Quote RobbieJor

Hi Jake,

So, you want to know: where in the world I find this information?

I’ll tell you my secret but you will have to promise not to tell anyone.

I get it from reading their letters specifically Ernest Hemingway Selected Letters 1917-1961 as edited by Carlos Baker.  You can really get into one’s head by reading their letters.  Ernie was a prolific letter writer and they are not boring at all.  I believe there is an effort going on now to compile a 5-6 volume set of all his letters (said to be in excess of 7000) to supplement this “selected” edition.  I met the professors last summer who are in charge of this project.  I can’t wait.

I read this book as my one-page-a-nighter (some times I read more; some times less).  And, yes, it took me over 800 days to finish it.  Reading at this speed you almost memorize the book and you certainly pick up a lot of trivia along the way.  It’s a nice way to become intimate with Ernie.  I also read all the footnotes.

I did the same with Faulkner, Fitzgerald, John Cheever, Margaret Mead and others.  If you have to choose one, read Hemingway.  Faulkner is the most boring of them all.  Fitzgerald is a bit better.

Re IRS: both Hemingway and Faulkner have a number of letters detailing their struggle in making tax payments to the IRS.  It was a lifetime struggle. Tax payment liabilities were the main reason Faulkner had to go to Hollywood and write for the studios.

Re hypochondriac: same thing goes.  Hemingway and Faulkner have a number of letters detailing their health problems.  Faulkner’s were alcohol related.  Ernie was frequently suffering from a cold or bed ridden with the flu and quite a crybaby about it.  You can almost hear him whining away.  He was overly concerned about his health; he weighed himself every day and recorded his weight and blood pressure as meticulously as he recorded his daily word count.

Good read’in



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Posted: 02 December 2005 at 3:50pm | IP Logged Quote Kristen

I am also having to write a short essay on this two men for my final.
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Posted: 02 December 2005 at 4:21pm | IP Logged Quote RobbieJor

Kristen,

Good luck with your final ... maybe you will share a copy of it with us?

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I tthink they were both American

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